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@cshentrup i'm not offering any emotions. i'm just saying that it seems like neither of us have persuaded or are likely to persuade the other. your characterizations of me are similar to those i might offer of you, if i were less averse to being insulting. we won't resolve this controversy between us. perhaps if we debated before an audience it might be interesting who would be more persuasive to third parties. (as a thought experiment, i'm not proposing we do that.)